Curse

Trin Storm · May 03, 2006, 06:37 PM // 18:37

/not signed - how is this broken or bothced?

You died - end of title. Like Aki said - if you want to lose your deaths to get a shot to earn this title - you should lose all the bonuses as well - level, skills, armor etc. I'm guessing you don't want to make that trade.

Juk3n · May 03, 2006, 10:14 PM // 22:14

The main argument is this..Currently it is IMPOSSIBLE for my Current character 11 months old kitted out with glorious armor and weapons and most importantly TIME AND ENERGY INVESTED, to get this title. Its not Hard to get, its not "a bit tricky" it's IMPOSSIBLE for my main guy to get it. That is a problem and there is no argument against it, it means i cannot have a (theoretical) 100% complete game, UNLESS i start again /not-gonna-happen.

It's wrong, u can't fault the logic.

The way to ensure abusive farming is not the means to getting it easily for older characters is, to nerf xp the way drops are nerfed aftera couple hours or so, a steady xp drop if u farm 1 specific enemy over and over.

imho.

Badger2 · May 03, 2006, 10:23 PM // 22:23

I'll agree to this as long as I get all of the other titles available without having to meet their requirements either.

TheYellowKid · May 03, 2006, 10:24 PM // 22:24

was it there when u created your character? No.. so how do u expect to be eligible? with that char u prob died in pre-searing at some point anyway, so u lost it at that point...

Why should xp be nerfed? because ur gettin upset that u cant get a title for ur older character so now everyone should suffer?

and erm u havent invested time and energy to get the title

End of the day its a new title so you have to start from when its instated to get it, theres no backdating and i dont think it should be allowed, atm its a title that shows you put a lot of effort into it and used skill to do it, its a lot harder to get to lvl 20 without dying then it is to be at level 20 and farm the same amount of xp without dying..

if you really want the title accept the challenge and do it the proper way there are no shortcuts

Navaros · May 04, 2006, 01:29 AM // 01:29

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Originally Posted by Aki Soyokaze

Your thread is full of vague notions about how you'd "earn" this title; even though you're unwilling to give up your xp, skills, weapons, and armor despite the fact that the very notion of a "Survivor" would be to play through the game starting with nothing and surviving. Not to mention the fact that if we were to apply your theory as to why you "deserve the right to earn the title," to other titles, it would make absolutely no sense.

Can't earn the title? Tough cookies.

/not signed

I am fully capable of doing anything Anet gives the opportunity to do in this game. I am not capable of getting the Survivor Title on my main character - the only place where that title matters - because of the horrible implementation of the Survivor Title system which allows no opportunity for old main character to have a chance to earn it.

My argument need not be applied to other Titles because other Titles can be earned on old, main characters - the only place that matters for them to be. As it should be for the Survivor Title also.

The Survivor Title is the only one that discriminates against old players and valued main characters therefore it is a uniquely botched situation.

My argument on this matter makes all the sense in the world. I have seen no rational argument against it. Only posts with the implicit tone "Anet is perfect so stop criticsizing things they screwed up." and/or "Since I am incapable of being competitive or achieving anything hard in this game, I don't want anyone else to have titles either".

I am perfectly willing to play through the game again from scratch with my main character and forsake my stuff on a temporary basis until the Title is earned. After I have earned the Title I should be able to get back my Pumpkin Helm and super expensive armor and weapons and all the skills my character has ever earned.

Or instead of all these complex things, Anet can simply make "Survivor" account-based.

sinisters chaos · May 04, 2006, 01:53 AM // 01:53

wow why isnt this thread closed, just a bunch of people talking non sense over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over ....

Sir Mad · May 04, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

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Originally Posted by beleg curudin

I spent 4 days preciously managing everything with my ritualist, and once I walked outside the market place at lvl 18 I see my health drop to 19, so i quickly closed guild wars. only to boot it back up and see that I been RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed out of my suvivor title. it seriously needs to be what it says "Gained X amount of experiance without dieing" Not what it does "Gain X amount of experiance without having 1 death from the time of character creation." I was 15,000 experiance points away from "survivor" now I either have to regret it and say forget about it, or go back and do all that stupid grind again.

/not signed, for I dont want the game to be crowded with alt+F4 idiots. Sorry, but I dont want them in my team, ad I think it's not asking too much.

Aki Soyokaze · May 04, 2006, 05:43 AM // 05:43

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Originally Posted by Navaros

I am fully capable of doing anything Anet gives the opportunity to do in this game. I am not capable of getting the Survivor Title on my main character - the only place where that title matters - because of the horrible implementation of the Survivor Title system which allows no opportunity for old main character to have a chance to earn it.

If you were fully capable of doing anything you'd stop whining, make a new character, and deal with the fact that you can't get it on your main character anymore. Or, you'd delete your current main character and remake it.

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Originally Posted by Navaros

My argument need not be applied to other Titles because other Titles can be earned on old, main characters - the only place that matters for them to be. As it should be for the Survivor Title also.

Well let's hope for your sake that the now unattainable areas in Tyria like the Guild Island and Pvp arenas/staging areas do not count towards the % of the map that's unlocked. Otherwise you're wrong there.

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Originally Posted by Navaros

The Survivor Title is the only one that discriminates against old players and valued main characters therefore it is a uniquely botched situation.

My argument on this matter makes all the sense in the world. I have seen no rational argument against it. Only posts with the implicit tone "Anet is perfect so stop criticsizing things they screwed up." and/or "Since I am incapable of being competitive or achieving anything hard in this game, I don't want anyone else to have titles either".

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Originally Posted by Does-it-Matter

You aren't getting screwed. You are simply getting what you've got. I seriously doubt ANet thought about the "surivor" title during GW development years ago. It's a new REWARD.

You don't "deserve" anything in this game except what you paid for.... Anything else is a PRIVALLIGE, not a RIGHT.

When you first purchased GW, did you go to the cashier with the intent of "earning the Survivor title on your main character" ? Chances are, no. So that is not what you paid for. Thus, anything granted to you from ANet AFTER you purchased GW is a privallige, a reward... not a mandate that you deserve.

If you really want the title, because its that important to you. Make a new character and go earn it from the start, like everyone else. Otherwise, its clearly not important and you just want it as "just another shinney ornament on my aged character."

There that seemed fairly rational; but perhaps you don't think so because that person doesn't agree with you. You died and that's simply a fact, not discrimination, thus you're not intitled to being called a "survivor." And no I don't think that Anet is perfect and everything they do is perfect; infact, I think they have a lot to work on, I just don't think that their main focus should be on one title so that you can be happy.

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I am perfectly willing to play through the game again from scratch with my main character and forsake my stuff on a temporary basis until the Title is earned. After I have earned the Title I should be able to get back my Pumpkin Helm and super expensive armor and weapons and all the skills my character has ever earned.

Well there-in-lies the problem, you've already got the spoils of being able to fight and die for your 'loot.' So it would be unfair to everyone else that got their title the hard way. And if you're that unwilling to give up what you have to get this title, then perhaps you never really deserved it in the first place. Because you sure as hell have to sacrifice a lot of time and effort to get it; the people who did/do get the survivor title don't get to get as much good stuff as you have on your main character. And they don't get to use that character for anything that is imaginative or in the least bit risky, they have to practically give up an entire character slot and play it safe.

So no, your arguement makes no sense at all. If you're not willing to sacrifice what others have sacrificed in order to get the title then you don't deserve it.